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11 February 2012 @ 09:59 pm
In which Hawaii 5-0 is like Pineapple Lifesavers  
hawaiian lifesaversDelicious. And we'll just ignore the holes.

I love Hawaii 5-0. I really really do. But let's be honest for a minute. It doesn't always make sense. 

Take episode 2.15 for instance. I loved this episode. I loved the drama, I loved the angst, I loved hating the bad guy. I loved everything about it. But the plot? You know it had as many holes as this bag of Hawaiian Fruit Lifesavers. 


Why do I even care? I can't answer that. And I ignore the obvious plot problems while I'm watching the episodes - the first time. But being a true H5-0 addict, I watch them more than once.

Let's look at 2.15 from a plot stand-point, shall we? Let's count the Lifesaver holes together:
  1. How did Rick kill the Federal Marshall without anyone noticing? The bathroom looked like a modern art exhibit gone wrong. The poor Marshall obviously suffered a horrible, loud death in very close quarters. And nobody on the plane noticed the noise, the screaming, the banging?
  2. How did Rick unlock the prisoner's ankle-cuffs without anyone noticing? From the amount of blood in the bathroom, Rick had to be covered with it. And nobody noticed?
  3. Why didn't they ask the passengers what the missing man looked like? They were all being held in the hanger. Why didn't Chin ask the people sitting closest to him what he looked like? Tall? Short? Dark? Light? Nothing?
  4. Why did the tennis instructor let Grace go with Rick? I know if he hadn't, there wouldn't have been an episode. But if he thought Danny was in the hospital, why didn't he call Steve? Or Kono? Or Chin? Or, I don't know, drive Grace himself?
  5. When Danny got to the top of the volcano/mountain/whatever, he'd been stationary long enough for Chin to know where he had stopped. It wouldn't have mattered if Rick disconnected the GPS. The Camaro had stopped moving by then. They would have known where he was.
  6. Why didn't they put Stan in protective custody? At the very least station a policeman at his office. Danny told Rachel to go to HPD now now now. Why did no one protect Stan?
  7. 5-0 showed up right before Danny shot Stan. If they were already there, he had to know they were going to arrest Rick. Which they did. But he shot Stan anyway. The outcome would have been the same if he hadn't.
I'm sure there are Lifesaver Holes I have omitted. If you know of any, leave me a comment. Or not. You know, whatever.

Thanks for playing!
 
 
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Lizet Elaine: Hawaii Five 0::215::Mai Ka Wa Kahikosimplyn2deep on February 12th, 2012 03:24 am (UTC)
I pretty much agree with all of those and mentioned them in some manner in my thoughts post, but I some rebuttal thoughts

5. That's probably a big area and while he would have known where he was at, it may not have been enough time to get a more precise location
6. protective detail was on the way to Stan when they found out he was going to meet Danny at the park - at least that was my understanding of the scene
7. Danny didn't know exactly how Rick had Grace, if he gave her to someone else who could then kill her if Danny didn't go through with it. also, Rick could probably see Stan and would know if Danny didn't shoot him, so he couldn't just do 3 to the ground bc Stan wouldn't have fallen...and Rick still could have caused something to happen to Grace
Are 6 dogs too many?: pinetkeylasunset on February 12th, 2012 05:54 am (UTC)
Yeah, I guess all the Big Ole Holes are kind of obvious. I feel bad for even thinking about them. But really writers? How about some continuity? A dash of realism.

And trust me, my tolerance for "hand-waving" solutions is really really high. I'm a Star Trek fan, for goodness sake. The 2009 movie made NO sense but I still loved every second of it!
Lizet Elainesimplyn2deep on February 12th, 2012 05:57 am (UTC)
I buy into the hand-waving too, but I have to draw the line somewhere. And for the most part, I don't notice the OBVIOUS stuff until someone else points it out and then in my head it clicks
antesqueluzantesqueluz on February 12th, 2012 05:05 am (UTC)
Heehee! You're so clever. Lifesavers... My new favorite analogy.
Are 6 dogs too many?: Steve WTFtkeylasunset on February 12th, 2012 05:55 am (UTC)
Lifesavers for everybody!!!! If we eat enough of them, we'll be on a total sugar rush and the holes won't matter!!

Thanks! :-)
Vera S.: H50 Steve combatverasteine on February 12th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't think most of these are actually plotholes, respectfully.

I mean, #1... a messy death does not equal a loud death; if you cut open someone's throat, they won't be able to make much sound. And an aircraft preparing for landing has a lot of background noise, so a struggle that was contained wouldn't be easily heard. Also, running water in a toiler, easy to wash blood off. And #2, the prisoner was seated in the back rows away from other passengers, someone crouching there to unlock cuffs would not be seen at all.

#3... human recall of faces they have not seen before is extremely poor; interracially, it is worse. Interviewing a dozen people in order to get a probable description when they have not been treated as vital witnesses will yield practically no useable result. The time it takes would take longer than the actual case took altogether.

#4 is sadly human nature; people trust uniforms. Kids are naturally distrusting, but the tennis instructor saw a uniform and believed there to be an emergency. He had no reason to double check. He also doesn't even know who "uncle Steve" would be, and therefore couldn't check with him.

#5 & 6 I'll grant you are a bit of a plot hole, but not by much, and I'd handwave under creative licence. #7 I would simply file under, "Danny was under duress", and I would hardly expect anyone in that position to be thinking that rationally that quickly.
Are 6 dogs too many?: beach chairtkeylasunset on February 12th, 2012 08:21 pm (UTC)
You make some excellent points. Those are perspectives I had not considered.

But then I love Lifesavers so I don't mind the holes. Ultimately, that's what it comes down to, for me anyway!