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27 November 2012 @ 10:02 am
Last night's episode  
Because I am a Gemini, I'm never 100% sure what I think about something until I have assurances that my opinion is a valid one. It's not a great trait to have but I'm assured by one of my best friends, a fellow Gemini, that it's in our nature.

After I watch Our Show, I usually glance over the fan reactions, mostly seeking confirmation that what I thought about the show was a valid opinion. The majority of the reactions I saw about last night's show were negative.

I'm not saying the episode was perfect or that it will be on my top 10 list. But I really enjoyed it. I loved the cat-and-mouse game between Steve and that evil woman. It showed sides of Steve we don't generally see. We're so used to seeing him always cool and in charge, seeing him start to unravel was fascinating. And Danny was right - Steve hates being challenged. It was a great moment when Danny pointed that out to him and there was nothing Steve could do to refute it.

I also thought the part with Catherine and the former-forever-coming-back-from-the-dead-Tony-Almeda was also well played. Preposterous? Sure. But aren't most TV cop shows? It gave us insight into Doris that we had been missing. I really think it's a mistake not telling Steve what happened but I have the feeling that the omission is leading to something bad happening. Or it's just a red herring. Goodness knows we've had plenty of those before.

I especially liked the fact that the disgraced WITSEC agent confronted Catherine about losing his badge. It felt right to me that he would come back to her and inform her of what she'd done. And then for them to team up was a very intriguing twist.

It was also cool seeing Catherine's house. I'm just so glad she has a place of her own to live.

And there wasn't quite enough Danny in last night's episode but the post-epidosde fan discussion seemed to indicate that this episode was filmed while he was at his mother's funeral. When he arrived in the show, it felt seamless to me. And we got to see Kono being the bad-ass she is.

On the whole, I'd give this episode 7 out of 10 Woman's Days. Not great but I didn't think it was as awful as some of the other reactions indicated.

Lizet Elainesimplyn2deep on November 27th, 2012 03:19 pm (UTC)
you're more generous than I am. I would have given it like 6 and a half out of 10.

Doris was worried about Steve thinking that someone could take her away and she doesn't want him to worry, but correct me if I'm wrong...isn't Wo Fat still out there? So there IS a possibility that someone could come and take her away. Plus her own shadiness and propensity for disappearing would leave anyone keeping some account of her (besides Cath the babysitter).
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on November 28th, 2012 01:52 am (UTC)
6.5 Woman's Days isn't bad. :-)

Doris needs to spill all the beans to Steve. Stop lying to him. And don't ask Catherine to lie for you! I just don't trust her. At all!
Azziria: h5-0azziria on November 27th, 2012 03:23 pm (UTC)
I really enjoyed it, too. As you say, not an all-time Top 10 episode, but it kept me entertained. Steve was gorgeous and it was good to see a bit of another side to him, Danny was wise and obviously knows Steve far too well, I liked the fact that Cath's hacking had consequences, and I liked the twists, both what Olivia really was, and Doris not needing rescuing.

I didn't read any episode reactions (or go on Twitter) before I watched this one, and I'm really glad I didn't, because it meant that I didn't go into it looking for what other people found less-than-good about it.
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on November 28th, 2012 01:54 am (UTC)
I too was entertained. And didn't Steve look especially yummy? Not that he doesn't usually, but that blue shirt! Breathtaking!!

It was nice that Cath's actions had consequences. So often they don't. I wonder what the consequences of McMom's actions might be???
bluedelft on November 27th, 2012 05:42 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed the episode and as you said not great but it had it's moments.

The Doris storyline was one of them since I'm finding her character very interesting and there is so much that we don't know about her. Cath is GREAT!

Kinda figured out that this was around the time that Scott lost his mother since we didn't see him right away and you knew that would happen sooner or later.

The scenes with Steve and Danny were great, as always!
Are 6 dogs too many?: book me a toweltkeylasunset on November 28th, 2012 01:55 am (UTC)
McMom is bad news - I just feel it in my bones.

Steve and Danny for the win - as always!! And yes, there was a copious amount of drooling going on while I watched this episode. I know you aren't surprised!!

dreamwind83: Steve Lickin' Gooddreamwind83 on November 27th, 2012 08:33 pm (UTC)
I have to agree. It wasn't a great episode but it wasn't season 2 bad either. I'd give it a 6.5 on the scale because it had two good plots going but they didn't cut it together very well. There were spots where the shift in story line was a little jarring. This episode was also nice in showing off Kono and Catherine's general badassery. But it also was nice to see that side of Steve that has gone into hiding since episode 1 where he was chasing after Hesse.

I liked that for once they went back and showed the aftermath of something that happened in another episode. We got to see the consequences of the characters actions, which was nice. Hopefully they'll do the same with future episodes. And not just for when Steve finds out his Mom is willing to torture people in the same manner that Wo Fat tortured him in North Korea, or that his girlfriend/fuck buddy knew about it and didn't tell him. because that looks like it will really come back to bite Catherine in the ass. It could be likely that Steve finds out sooner rather than later since the blood from the attack at the house was still on the floor when they rushed off and it didn't appear that anyone had done anything about the broken lamp and since Steve finished up his mission before Cath & Doris, they might not have enough time to clean up all the signs of the attack.
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on November 28th, 2012 01:58 am (UTC)
"wasn't Season 2 bad..." You said something there!

I know! McMom tortured that man like Wo Fat did to Steve. I can't believe Steve sanction her actions if he knew. (It was a cool twist that McMom was doing the torturing instead of being tortured.)

Catherine should not have promised McMom not to tell Steve. That can only end badly. And I wouldn't be surprised if they don't just hand-wave the blood and broken lamp. Especially since the order the shows were taped in aren't the same order they are being shown. I don't think it's straightened out yet, anyway.
dreamwind83: Steve Lickin' Gooddreamwind83 on November 28th, 2012 02:42 am (UTC)
I think it's very telling that Doris was the one torturing the guy and that really she had no reason to do so. Like others have pointed out she was supposedly not doing CIA business for the 16 years she was a Mom. If that was the case it left her vulnerable to any enemies she had. They could have taken her out then, but didn't. It really seems like the only CIA business she may have done during that time was to kill Wo Fat's father and if thats the case then she should have been more worried about him than last nights bad guy. So why didn't she tie up & torture Wo Fat as well? I think there is a whole lot more between her and Wo Fat than we are supposed to know at this point. I am still of the opinion that she is Wo Fat's Mom. ;)

They seem to have started to hand wave a lot of things more often in the last two seasons. Maybe it'll pop up later on and we'll just be supposed to think Steve saw but was watching to see what would happen as he seems to be doing with Doris at this time anyway. I also wonder what they are planning with Catherine because its obvious they are up to something plot wise for her since they are focusing on her more and not addressing previously open plots like Danny fighting for Grace to remain in Hawaii.
gyrigyri on November 27th, 2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
Jeez, I didn't think it was awful either! I was really intrigued with the procedural part and the twist about the supposed psychologist being a "Madam," was a good one, I never saw that coming. I loved seeing the scenes with her and Alex, although I found it disturbing personally (something I'll post about shortly).

I also loved Cath's scenes and her teaming up with the WITSEC agent. What I didn't know was why Doris would resort to torturing the guy---and why she'd want to keep yet ANOTHER secret from Steve.

I really hope Catherine white-lied to her about keeping the whole thing from Steve.
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on November 28th, 2012 02:02 am (UTC)
I liked the cat-and-mouse game with Steve and Olivia. Realistic? Of course not. It never is. One of the complaints I saw was that it takes a really long time to have a restraining order placed on someone. Maybe so. But I'm pretty sure even Max can't DNA match a victim in 10 minutes. Hand-waving. We must accept the hand-waving!

I thought it was awesome that Cath and the former Tony Almedia teamed up. I wouldn't mind if he showed up again sometime. (We seem to have a lot of refugees from 24 coming around. Maybe Jack Bauer and Steve could go head-to-head. Who ya got?)

Catherine needs to tell Steve. He won't be happy when he finds out she lied to him. And he will find out. Because he's Steve!