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28 January 2013 @ 02:22 pm
Request for input/opinion/ IDEK  
So I've been thinking - dangerous I know. Specifically about my story The Amaranthines. (If you're curious, you can find it here on AO3.)

The idea of the Amaranthines is all mine. Basically it's about immortals and stuff. I wrote it as a Steve/Danny H50 story because, you know, fanfiction. But the more I think about it, the more I think I want to make it a real riginal story, all mine.

It won't be hard to reimagine it without Steve and Danny. I can come up with original characters to live in the world I've already created.

But Let's Play Pretend for a minute - let's say I write it and it gets published. What then? Will I be accused of plagiarism? If I want this to happen, should I take down the Amaranthines? I have enough stories out there that someone could realize the author of The Amaranthines is also the writer of all those fanfics. What happens then? Would it be scandalous? I mean, Stephanie Meyer did it but "borrowed" from Twilight, from what I understand.

Is it worth the possible risk of being "outed" by writing a "real" version of the story? But then what are the chances it will ever be published?

What am I asking here? Two things, maybe:

1. Should I try rewriting it as an original story?
2. Should I worry about what could happen IF it's ever published?

Thoughts? Visions? Views?
kaige68kaige68 on January 28th, 2013 07:26 pm (UTC)
I'm always for rewriting something for publication. In the even that you get an agent, you take it down off line.

Think about posting this at 1_million_words.

I'd be very excited to see it in print!
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on January 28th, 2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
I will repost it there! Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe my story will be REAL one day!!
kaige68: Fantastickaige68 on January 28th, 2013 07:39 pm (UTC)
Your story is REAL NOW!!!! But someday ....

*excited hugs*
Umai Hoshifairyniamh on January 28th, 2013 08:25 pm (UTC)
So, to get a true feel of what people think of publishing re-written fan fiction you have to look no further than 50 Shades of Grey.

On the whole I think fans will NOT mind you re-writing it as an original, but it does seem to irk them if you turn it into a profit. (Mostly because they have lost their story, some because they have lost their beloved characters... and lot will hate it because most publishing companies make you remove ALL of your fan fiction.)

I have not read the story... so *shrugs* Unbiased opinion.
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on January 29th, 2013 03:43 pm (UTC)
Well - I do get the "going from free to charging" conundrum. But if I rewrite it, I won't be fanfiction any longer. Maybe that will make a difference?

Oooh - I didn't think about having to remove all my fanfiction. That is something to consider - not that I really need to worry about the possibilities at this moment.

An unbiased opinion is just what I needed. Thank you!!!
Umai Hoshifairyniamh on January 29th, 2013 04:13 pm (UTC)
The way around that is to self publish/e-publish. I have a friend who does that. Because... e-publishing and publishing. 2 different kettle of fish. Weigh your options and choose which best fits you.

The Huntress: UCFhuntress69 on January 28th, 2013 08:30 pm (UTC)
Long before "50 Shades of Grey"...I know 2 SPN authors who rewrote their work as original fiction and have published them as e-books.
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on January 29th, 2013 03:43 pm (UTC)
Interesting! So there is a precedence! Good to know.

I love the idea of self-publishing ebooks. Seems so democratic somehow!

Thanks BB!!
gyrigyri on January 29th, 2013 12:20 am (UTC)
I'm not sure if you can be accused of plagiarism if you are making changes to an original idea of your own.

I liked The Amaranthines, by the way. :-)
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on January 29th, 2013 03:45 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I like The Amaranthines too! So much I want to remake it into my very own.

I guess worrying about plagiarism accusations is premature at this point. But I was trying to work out how to convert it from fanfiction to "regular" fiction in my head and that was one of my sticking points.

Thanks again!!
lou_clou_c on January 29th, 2013 08:40 am (UTC)
It's way, way better than 50 shades. I don't think people bag out the prior life as ff but the fact that it is so full of sex stuff.

If you do take it down, pretty please give us all ample warning so we can DL it to our iDevices first! :D
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on January 29th, 2013 03:46 pm (UTC)
I will give amply warning. You are so sweet!!!

If I do rewrite it, I'll include sex - a little anyway. But I'll change the two main characters to a man and woman. More mainstream that way!

Thank you again!!!
amarylissaamaryllisssa on January 29th, 2013 01:14 pm (UTC)
I'd definitely rewrite it. It is a great concept ... and actually I think if you get to the stage where a publisher accepts it, you can be confident that it would not be seen as derivative. I'm not sure if that's clear enough, but guessing that the word count might double to make a decent length paperback, and you rework the main characters, it will end up with many, many differences to the work you have now.
I'm working on an original fic, and have some issues with the main character: I can see elements of different people I have met IRL in her, and worry that if it ever gets published, they might too! I'm working on developing her as a person in her own right ... and I think that will happen if you redo the amaranthines: your new leads will take on their own characters.
Are 6 dogs too many?tkeylasunset on January 29th, 2013 03:48 pm (UTC)
Yes, it will end up very very different. I can extract all the H50 elements. I don't think it depends on Steve and Danny to work. It's not like one of my Star Trek stories where they'd need to be in space for it to work.

I like the concept too. The more I think about it, the more I'm glad I thought it up! and I can see it going places beyond where it went in the H50 version!

Thank you so much for the good thoughts! You've given me much to think on.
minou_demimondeminou_demimonde on February 15th, 2013 05:04 am (UTC)
Go for it.
My sister started with fan fiction, and is on her third original novel. She's good. Very good. And very well-liked.

She'll never get rich, but that's not the point, is it? Well, ok, it would be nice....

The difference between Shades of Grey and The Amaranthines, is that Shades of Grey really did steal a lot from Stephanie Meyers. Frankly, Stephanie should sue, but she won't because she's too nice. And maybe because she's too smart.

But your story is very original. Yes, you borrowed some characters, but you made them your own. And frankly, by the time that you're done, it won't even resemble the original idea.

Do it. I've been telling you for a while now that it's time you went pro...

Edited at 2013-02-15 05:04 am (UTC)