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09 May 2012 @ 09:52 am
I'm just embarrassed  
Real life is pissing me off. I'm from North Carolina. But today I don't want to admit that. The primary yesterday included an Amendment to define marriage as one man and one woman. And it f-ing passed!!!!! I really thought there was a chance it would be defeated. I was wrong.

In case you aren't from North Carolina, let me try to provide as reasonable an explanation as I can for the stupidity represented by yesterday's vote. We are in the Bible-belt. There is a church on every corner. Much of our state still engages in agriculture as a primary occupation. I'm not saying farmers are stupid. I'm saying farmers are old-fashioned. Mix that with a heavy influence from their pastors and they are going to vote no to gay marriage. We also have more than our share of high school drop-outs. Despite the fact that we are home of some of the country's finest Universities (Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest) we aren't especially well educated as a whole. And generally better educated means more progressive.

The sad part is that this Amendment doesn't impact just the "gays." It also can prevent "traditional" couples who cohabitate (i.e. "live in sin") from having spousal rights. North Carolina doesn't have common-law marriages. I have a friend who has been in a "traditional" relationship for 30+ years. They just never got married. But if something happened to her, he wouldn't automatically be allowed to make any necessary decisions. Because they don't have a sheet of paper to prove they are a couple!!!

I love being a native of North Carolina. Southern hospitality is a real concept. We look out for each other, we care for each other, the living is good. But today - today I'm disappointed. And embarrassed. This is 2012, people. If two consenting adults want to be in a a relationship, get married, share everything that means, what business is it of anyone else's the gender of those two people??? I can only hope the courts overturn the Amendment like they did in, I think, California. Until then, I'll have to live with the consequences of the ignorance prevailing.
Current Mood: angry
J.the_physicist on May 9th, 2012 02:00 pm (UTC)
i read in the news that it was likely to pass. i didn't know if it could be over-turned or not... but you say that it might happen, because of the case of California? that sounds good.

i hope that it can. it's really sad to read about all this stuff, especially in America, which has traditionally been quite good with LGBT rights (it's not fair to always compare the US to the UK and say Europeans are more enlightened or stuff like that, when the rest of Europe has an atrocious for LGBT rights and acceptance. believe me, I grew up there and didn't appreciate all the shit i had to put up for being who i am).

i think in general there is more acceptance though, and hopefully stuff like this is just temporary set-backs. :-S
Are 6 dogs too many?: new kirk and spocktkeylasunset on May 10th, 2012 01:32 am (UTC)
We are a fairly progressive nation as a whole. But at the same time, we were founded by Puritans. Many of their attitudes still prevail - work hard, worship God, don't view porn, don't talk about sex. That's one of the reason broadcast TV still doesn't show nudity and if they do, it's news.

I surely thought by now all of this would be a total non-issue. It's 2012. What difference does it make who decides to live with whom? It shouldn't except to the two people involved. But in North Carolina I am clearly in the minority. Sad, really.
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Are 6 dogs too many?: beach chairtkeylasunset on May 10th, 2012 01:29 am (UTC)
I'm stunned by the margin of defeat - or passage I guess. I think it's because the holy rollers mobilized their churches and voted en-masse. Incredible.
dreamwind83: OMG! WTF!dreamwind83 on May 9th, 2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
I live in Washington and our Governor passed a law to make gay marriage legal, which is great, but the same day it passed all the right-wring crazies and republicans held a confrence to say that they are going to file an appeal to force voters to declare it illegal. I hope that we'll have enough voters with common sense to make sure it stays legal because it really shouldn't matter what gender your spouse is as long as you both love each other and are adults.

I think I heard, and I could be wrong, that another state had brought up a measure like the one you are talking about, where Marriage would only be defined as being between and man and woman, and brought it to the Supreme Court to have it ruled as unconstitutional. Hopefuly if that really is something happening that it'll mean that other states can't pass laws like that on in NC.
Are 6 dogs too many?: plain clothestkeylasunset on May 10th, 2012 01:28 am (UTC)
That would be excellent, if the US Constitution made it impossible for states to determine "legal" marriage.

I knew North Carolina was conservative but this is just ridiculous. And embarrassing.
a geek in such the wrong way: H50-steve-nutshaldoor on May 9th, 2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Not good.
Are 6 dogs too many?: Muscles and McGootkeylasunset on May 10th, 2012 01:26 am (UTC)
To say the least.

scraplovescraplove on May 9th, 2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
:( I was pretty upset. There's a change.org petition to repeal it, if you're interested. Also, some good news, President Obama just announced his support for marriage equality.
Are 6 dogs too many?: BEAUTIFUL VULCANtkeylasunset on May 10th, 2012 01:26 am (UTC)
I wonder if he had announced it earlier if it would have made a difference. But probably not. This is, unfortunately, a fairly Republican/conservative state.

I'll go to change.org and sign the petition. Thanks.